Tuesday, November 28, 2006


I have never been a Bill Stoneman basher. 2002 goes a long way in my opinion of most of the people in current Angels management, but if the rumors are true, someone needs to steal the keys from this madman as soon as humanly possible. The L.A. Times is reporting that the Angels are discussing a trade of Figgins for Crede. That's the good news. The bad news is that the trade would also include Ervin Santana for Freddie Garcia. That's lunacy.

The difference between the relative values of Crede and Figgins is much lower than the difference between Garcia and Santana when salaries are added in. It's the type of difference that could easily be filled by a Steven Shell, or some other such minor league arm that isn't among the cream of the Angels pitching crop. Why Stoneman would even consider a deal in which he would add a pitcher who has declined each of the last two seasons, and is owed in the neighborhood of $10MM is beyond me. Santana, on the other hand, was at least Garcia's equal last year, will only be 24 years old, and is club controlled for the next four seasons.

I've been an advocate of a Figgins for Crede deal, but not at this price. This is just fucking nuts.


wraith said...

According to angelswin.com, the deal may be done (from Barry at HH):

I am hearing that the deal is done...

Yep. Terrible trade Bill.

Chuck, over at www.angelswin.com posted this..

"hmmmmmmmm, something leads me to believe this rumor is true and in fact, will happen soon, after a chit chat I just had with an Angels executive. Nothing is firm, but the conversation led me to believe it could and soon."

All hands, general quarters

Seitz said...

If that's true, I give up. I can only take so much obvious mismanagement. These guys are fucking idiots.

Anonymous said...

I'm with you on this one -- sheer fucking lunacy to pull the trigger on this deal. Holy fuck, we can't trade Santana for Wells or Jones, sayeth the Great Stoneman. But a package deal for Garcia (who's best year was 199-fucking-9) and Crede? Sure, pull the trigger. What the hell is he smoking? And where can I get some of that, cos it must be some good shit to make this trade come close to being anything other than fucking atrocious.

Swap out Santana for Saunders and then maybe we do the deal. But not the way it is currently set-up.

Plus I'm bitter that I had to sit through the Illini losing at home for the first time to a non-conference opponent since Henson was coach.

And it'll probably snow on Friday here in champaign -- triple fuck.

(apologies for the "fucks", but it really is fucking lunacy if this trade goes down. And don't even get me started on the Kings and Crawford's stupidity of staying with Dan fucking Cloutier)